1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 It was in Warren's street that got across the horizon. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:13,000 In 1965, witnesses reported seeing a UFO crash in the woods outside of a small Pennsylvania 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,000 town. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 It was right here. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Insighting one of the largest UFO cover-ups in history. 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000 It makes you wonder if we can trust anything. 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 I was there. 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 What did the military find in those years? 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 What did the military find in those woods? 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 There was something inside of that thing. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:45,000 The time has come to uncover the truth behind the Kecksburg UFO case. 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,000 I'm Ben Hansen, a former federal agent. 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,000 My grandfather worked at a highly classified Air Force base and convinced me we are not 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 alone in the universe. 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Then I had my own encounter that changed my life forever. 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Welcome to UFO Country. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Now I've gained access to a top secret archive from Project Blue Look. 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,000 His plan has been under surveillance for centuries. 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Containing reports of over 10,000 UFO sightings investigated by the U.S. government. 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,000 We could very well be standing on the exact place where a UFO crashed. 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 My mission is to uncover the truth. 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:38,000 I'm in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, southwestern part of the state. 23 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,000 This is the site of the 1965 alleged UFO crash. 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Very strange occurrence in the small community. 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:55,000 The world has been fascinated by reports of UFO crashes since the infamous Roswell incident of 1947. 26 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:08,000 But a lesser known UFO crash has haunted the little town of Kecksburg, Pennsylvania since 1965. 27 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:19,000 In this tiny town, locals claim they saw a fireball tear across the sky and crash into a wooded hollow a few miles away. 28 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:26,000 At the crash site, witnesses saw a large metallic acorn-shaped object bathed in colorful lights. 29 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 The military later claimed it was simply a meteor. 30 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,000 But those who saw it maintained it was a craft from another world. 31 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Kecksburg was never the same. 32 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 It's heavily wooded. 33 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 There's very few houses around. 34 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,000 I can imagine something happening in the middle of the night. 35 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:51,000 The whole town's going to know about it if you see smoke and you're going to go find out what it was. 36 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,000 The fire station I hear has kind of become the hub of Kecksburg. 37 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 There's not really a downtown. 38 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Here's a fire station. 39 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,000 And here is their monument to the craft they claim crashed here, the giant acorn. 40 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Let's take a look at this. 41 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Kecksburg UFO, December 9th, 1965. 42 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:26,000 I think this is the same size as much as they could make a replica of what they believed it was. 43 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:32,000 I can see here there's like strange inscriptions and writings on the side of it. 44 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,000 That was reported by some of the witnesses. 45 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 This probably hasn't changed much since the 60s. 46 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,000 You can tell just by the age of the homes and things here in the woods, 47 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:52,000 it's very possible that the woods looked almost exactly the same in 1965. 48 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,000 It's like the whole town has been frozen in time since the day of the incident. 49 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:04,000 But recently there have been new UFO sightings that are eerily similar to 1965. 50 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:13,000 And Ben is meeting with the man who has been investigating those sightings. 51 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Hey, Ben, how you doing? 52 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Roger, welcome to UFO country. 53 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,000 So the southwestern part of Pennsylvania is truly a hotspot, huh? 54 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Yes, it's just rampant in this area. 55 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 They appear to be observing us. 56 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 And they've been coming for decades. 57 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 It's never let up. 58 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,000 And the people that are reporting are very, very scared. 59 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 We have a very good witness who saw something here. 60 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 I'd love to hear what he has to say because... 61 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 An incredible story. 62 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Andrew Frick claims to have seen a UFO that matches the description of the 1965 Acorn 63 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:02,000 just seven miles from where the Kecksburg UFO allegedly crashed 55 years ago. 64 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Could the two UFOs be connected? 65 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,000 So, Andrew, Roger tells me you had a pretty intense experience. 66 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Can you walk me through what happened that day? 67 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Yeah. 68 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 I came over to hang out with my friends. 69 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 We were here gaming. 70 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 All of a sudden the TV starts freeze-framing. 71 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 And the picture started to get in the desert. 72 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 And eventually we just shut the whole thing down. 73 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 We go outside and it's so clear out. 74 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,000 I pulled out my phone because I wanted to try and get a picture. 75 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:15,000 And as I pulled my phone out and I'm panning the sky looking for a good area, 76 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 I see this object in the sky. 77 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 It was perfectly still. 78 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 It hovered in place? 79 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Right. 80 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:38,000 We were staring at it for about 40 seconds and I remember these lights appeared on it. 81 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,000 And all of a sudden it meandered for about 10 seconds. 82 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 It took off. 83 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 It was gone. 84 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Like a blink of an eye. 85 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 So how did this end? 86 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,000 You know, we go back inside and of course the connection and the TV are fine. 87 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 And everything's normal again. 88 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,000 It was just the craziest thing because I've never seen anything like that in the sky. 89 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Especially for it to not make a noise. 90 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,000 No sound whatsoever. 91 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 No sound. 92 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Did you try filming it? 93 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Well I snapped a picture but it was just black. 94 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,000 It was all black. 95 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Pretty intense. It happened right here. 96 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 What do you think it was? Do you think it was from here? 97 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,000 After seeing it, I remember thinking to myself, did that happen? 98 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,000 It's definitely, definitely something from out of this world. 99 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Andrew's testimony is amazing. 100 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 This acorn-shaped craft silently hovered over them. 101 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Disrupted their electronics, gave off a red glow and disappeared in a fraction of a second. 102 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Could this UFO be linked to the Kecksburg crash of 1965? 103 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Ben is headed to meet with a local reporter who has been documenting UFO sightings and testimony for over 50 years. 104 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Hi Stan. 105 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,000 It's nice to finally meet you. 106 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Nice to meet you too. 107 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000 So could you kind of just take me back to that evening? 108 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:32,000 As there was news breaking on the radio and TV station around Pittsburgh that this brilliant fireball had been observed, 109 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:39,000 whatever the object was, it fell into a water ravine near Kecksburg here in Mount Pleasant Township. 110 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:48,000 The witnesses who saw the object locally said it did not come down at a high rate of speed like you would have, 111 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,000 for example, with a re-entry of space debris or meteor, but it came down almost like it made a controlled landing. 112 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:07,000 One of the witnesses who was a volunteer fireman, he had been called out to search for a possible downed aircraft. 113 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 So he and his few guys hurried over and there was a little embankment there. 114 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:22,000 And that's when they come across this large metallic, acorn shaped object semi-buried in the ground. 115 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,000 And one of the witnesses was actually tuning up a seabed radio. 116 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Okay. 117 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,000 And there was actually some talk, some chatter on there from people who had seen this thing coming across the sky. 118 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:43,000 And as he's looking up from the dash, he sees this brilliant fiery object moving across the sky from Norbell. 119 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Across the sky, I've never known a meteor where I could get that communication and go out and look in the sky and it'd still be there. 120 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:58,000 I mean, meteors come down like this, you know, within a second or two and they pass over you, they're gone. 121 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:09,000 So it amazes me that if this was a meteor, he's hearing this and has time enough to get out, look up from his car and still see this thing and then see it change direction. 122 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:18,000 He said this was big enough for a man to stand on the side of, approximately 10 to 12 feet in length, about 8 to 10 feet in diameter. 123 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:26,000 But on the back of the object, like the back of the acorn, there are raised up markings that look more like symbols than writing. 124 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,000 According to eyewitnesses, the symbols were not from any recognizable human language. 125 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:45,000 So as they're down there, two men came down through the woods and right behind them are soldiers. 126 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Looked at the object, looked at them and said, this area is now quarantined. You need to leave here immediately. 127 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Wow. So what happens after the military pushes everybody out of there? 128 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Some of the witnesses back then were young kids or teenagers. Some of these teenagers apparently found their way through some of the roadblocks. 129 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,000 And one of the witnesses saw something interesting too. 130 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 What did witnesses see in the woods that night? 131 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,000 And I can see his voice begin to tremble and he said, I swear to God, sir, there was something inside of that thing. 132 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,000 And he goes on to tell me how a military officer jumped on top of the object. 133 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 And he struck the object. 134 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,000 And he said, moments later, this hatch opens from front of the object. 135 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:02,000 He said, as a matter of seconds, I can hear metal on metal hitting and then it closes. 136 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,000 And then the officer is screaming and yelling, hurry up, hurry up, we don't have much time. 137 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 And that's when they lift it onto the flatbed truck and get it out of there. 138 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Stan details countless eyewitness reports to Ben. 139 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,000 A lot of these people said, I was wearing their oath about what we saw. 140 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Nothing supports the government's claims that a meteor crashed here that night, leading Ben to believe the truth has been covered up. 141 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:37,000 In hopes of discovering what really happened at Kecksburg, Ben contacts Jenny Ziedman, 142 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,000 the last remaining member of the top secret government program, Project Blue Book. 143 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Starting in 1952, Blue Book investigated thousands of UFO encounters. 144 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:57,000 And Jenny kept files on all of them, including one on the 1965 Kecksburg incident. 145 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 It's so nice to see you again, Jenny. 146 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 How did you? 147 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Good. 148 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 I just met with Stan Gordon, who interviewed hundreds of witnesses. 149 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,000 They claim a UFO crashed in the woods and military personnel carried something away. 150 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Yeah, we had a lot of really good stuff to share with you. 151 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Oh, I can't wait. 152 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Joining Jenny and Ben on the investigation is UFO historian Mark O'Connell. 153 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,000 People just flocked to this alleged crash site. 154 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Is this the Blue Book file? 155 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Yeah, this is. 156 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 December 9th, 1965. 157 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Conclusion, meteor. 158 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 So this is one of the news reports. 159 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Officials state that a meteorite was probably the cause of it all, 160 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:04,000 but the object was traveling much too slow from meteorite. 161 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 There is also evidence that it changed course in flight. 162 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,000 You've got witnesses who say that this slowed down and then changed direction. 163 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 The idea that this object was a meteor. 164 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 That's about as ludicrous as I've heard. 165 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Jenny, what's your overall opinion? 166 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Do you think it's possible the government covered up a UFO crash in Kecksburg? 167 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Oh, sure. 168 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:48,000 So why do you think that the government seems to still be hiding these close calls that we've had with UFOs? 169 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Because that shows our weakness that we can't control or anticipate. 170 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,000 That is going to mean that we're the victims. 171 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Do you think we should prepare for the worst then? 172 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000 We can't. 173 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 What can we do? 174 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 They're so far ahead of us, psychologically. 175 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,000 I'll fly really off the handle and say we're doomed. 176 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 But Jenny has a lead on the truth behind the Kecksburg incident. 177 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:32,000 In 1965, Project Blue Book interviewed eyewitness Ron Strubel when he was 22 years old. 178 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:39,000 It was an orange street that got across the horizon. 179 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,000 It disappeared over the mountains. 180 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:55,000 And after 55 years, Strubel has agreed to meet with Ben and lead him to the crash site. 181 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:02,000 If one of these objects crashed, there would be debris on site. 182 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Alright guys, well thank you so much for your help and we're relatively close to Pennsylvania. 183 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:15,000 So I'm going to head out that way and start looking into some of these possible witnesses that are still around. 184 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 And I'd like to go out to the site myself. 185 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,000 So thank you. 186 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,000 We thank you. 187 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Jenny Seidman confirmed it was no meteor that crashed outside Kecksburg in 1965. 188 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:41,000 To help Ben expose the government cover-up, she connects him with two eyewitnesses who claim they saw a UFO in the woods that night. 189 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Hi. 190 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Hi. 191 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Nice to meet you. 192 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Nice to be Ron and Bill. 193 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Man of the hour. 194 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Nice to meet you, Ben. 195 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Nice to meet you. 196 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Ron was 22 years old when he was interviewed by investigators from Project Blue Book. 197 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:09,000 There was smoke going across the horizon and in the old dead crash in Kecksburg area. 198 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Bill Weaver was 19 at the time. 199 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:20,000 After hearing reports of the crash on the radio, he rushed out to the site where he saw an eerie blue light emanating from the woods. 200 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Thank you so much for meeting me here. 201 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,000 I've heard a lot about how you can fill in the blanks of what happened this night. 202 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:38,000 By the time I got out to Kecksburg, the military was already here. 203 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:46,000 They had the roads blocked and everybody thought there was an airplane or something that crashed in the area. 204 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:55,000 We could just look down in the hall and see, you know, guys running back and forth towards the site. 205 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Where were you and how did it all start for you? 206 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,000 I was just out cruising. 207 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,000 There's people standing alongside the road. 208 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:13,000 I looked down in there and I could see where something had just plowed into the ground. 209 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:21,000 And there was a light emulating off of that object. 210 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,000 The military is all over the place. State police is all over the place. 211 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 At this point too, there's a big truck pulls in. 212 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:39,000 There's four guys get out of this truck with a box. 213 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 But they were wearing moon suits. 214 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:49,000 And they carried that thing down in to the woods to that object. 215 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,000 And the men in the dark suits seemed to have the power over everybody. 216 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Now my father was a foreman on state highways and he was always out checking the roads. 217 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,000 And he watched them haul that thing out of here. 218 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 But he said it was covered with a tarp. 219 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,000 A trailer truck with a tarp over it? 220 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Yes. 221 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:28,000 If they weren't expecting or had a plan for this sort of thing, how does a box truck show up with four military guys in a crate? 222 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:37,000 How does that make you feel, regardless of what this was, that the official story is we didn't recover anything? 223 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:47,000 For years we've been told that the military wasn't there. Well that's a falsity. Whatever branch they were, they were there. 224 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 How many people in dark suits would you say they were? 225 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Maybe a half a dozen, if I can remember right. 226 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,000 No military uniform or insignia? 227 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 No, it's shirt and tie and suit and coat. 228 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 And they would show up and start directing? 229 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,000 With the state police and the military. That's the way I seen it. 230 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 So this object is the size of you say of a Volkswagen Beetle? 231 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Yes, the old bugs we call them. 232 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:24,000 Now why was not everybody else back in there? Like you said they were out kind of on the main road, why weren't they back in there with you? 233 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:33,000 I don't know, there was only a few out. There was more out on the main road as I remember as than there were in toward you object. 234 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:45,000 Well I since learned they stopped people on the top of Sunset Lane, which is now Sunset Lane, where this happened from going down in. 235 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:54,000 They wouldn't let anybody else down in and he, at that time, you know they had the authority to keep everybody back from going down in. 236 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Would you tell people who believe that official story and they say no, no, no, the reports that came out and everything says military were in there. 237 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,000 So you guys are in essence lying. What do you tell those people? 238 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Somebody's not going to tell me that it didn't happen because I was there. 239 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,000 It landed in our little town, okay, so something happened. 240 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,000 What you haven't really told me is what you think it is. 241 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:37,000 I don't know if it's something out of this world or not. It makes me wonder. There could be something alien. 242 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Witnesses Ron Struble and Bill Weaver believe the government has been hiding the truth. 243 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Our government knows. They won't tell us. Give us those reports. Nothing blacked out on them. Tell us what that was. 244 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:03,000 That's what all of us want, but I don't know that that's ever going to happen. 245 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:11,000 Well then it's time to hunt for proof ourselves. Ron, Jenny Zeidman says that you know where the UFO crashed. 246 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,000 If one of these objects crashed, there would be debris on site. 247 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,000 I would love to go to the crash site. Do you remember how to get to that location? 248 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Yes. Let's do it. 249 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Ron and Bill's description of the events of December 9th, 1965 leave little doubt as to what happened in the woods that fateful night. 250 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Now Ben will attempt to recover physical evidence from the crash site and validate their claims. 251 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:51,000 If we can pinpoint the exact location where this happened, I plan on doing a basic field survey. 252 00:22:52,000 --> 00:23:01,000 So metal detecting, Geiger counters, looking for any effect this object may have had on the vegetation. Anything that looks out of place. 253 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:06,000 And it's really not implausible that we would find that after all these years. 254 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:22,000 So Stan Gordon, the local researcher, told me that the fireball came from this direction, comes over the town basically, comes to this point and takes a very drastic turn in the other direction before it settles into the ravine. 255 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Most of the witnesses watched the recovery effort from this position. I'm excited to get down in there. 256 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Ron Struble will lead Ben down to the crash site. 257 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Ron, do you want to lead me down here? I imagine it would be quite a recovery effort. Yeah, it's getting pretty thick in here. 258 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 You see that clearing down there? That's where we're going. 259 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Okay. 260 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 We are right in the location, right here. 261 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,000 It was in here. In here? Yeah. Like right where I'm standing. 262 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:18,000 It's almost just like I pictured it. You know, I had in my mind that night what was going on. 263 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:27,000 I pictured military men with searchlights and a big excavation and maybe a little bit of fear as they're trying to hurry and scoop this thing up and take it out. 264 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,000 We could very well be standing on the exact place where a UFO crashed in 1965. 265 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:42,000 What I'm really interested in is some of these tree tops that seem to be kind of sheared off at the top similar to what the witnesses described happen that some of the trees were cut off in the middle of the day. 266 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,000 And from the air, one can almost make out an actual crash site. 267 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,000 So what I'm thinking is I'm going to do a baseline EMF reading and then I'd like to start with a sweep. 268 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000 And then I'm going to start with a sweep. 269 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000 I'm going to start with a sweep. 270 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 I'm going to start with a sweep. 271 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000 I'm going to start with a sweep. 272 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 I'm going to start with an actual crash site. 273 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:16,000 So what I'm thinking is I'm going to do a baseline EMF reading and then I'd like to start with a sweep of the general area using the metal detector. 274 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000 We've also got ground penetrating radar. 275 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Charles should be here in a minute and he's got a kind of an all terrain ground penetrating radar that we can go over the area and look for anything. 276 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,000 Can you explain to me exactly how this works and what we're going to be doing? 277 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,000 We're going to go over the area, the midget signal down into the ground, pops back up on the screen. 278 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,000 You can go from six inches to sixty, seventy feet. 279 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Okay. 280 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000 Vince? 281 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000 I think I got something. 282 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,000 What do you got? 283 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Right under this flag here. 284 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Okay. 285 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,000 I found this. 286 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 It's denser than anything else that's in here. 287 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,000 It's a lot brighter. 288 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Whoa! 289 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Alright, so now the real work begins. 290 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Charles has found something. 291 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000 So we need to grab our shovel and see if we can get down to where this is. 292 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Okay. 293 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Now I'm more curious than ever. 294 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Imagine what we could find in here. 295 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,000 If they did excavatings, they pulled this wreckage out. 296 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000 If they left some trunk that got overlooked, break this case wide open. 297 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,000 Let's see. 298 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Come on. 299 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Ah! 300 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Pepsi! 301 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000 This kind of gives you an idea how old this trash is. 302 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000 This little Pepsi can with the tab you pull back. 303 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,000 The markings on the trees and the damage to the tops. 304 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Not to mention what appears to be the scars of an old crash site. 305 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Could suggest that a huge object entered from the direction described by the eyewitnesses. 306 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,000 What came out of the forest that night in Kecksburg and where did it go? 307 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:56,000 While Ben found no conclusive evidence of a UFO at the site, the signs of a crash are still evident to this day. 308 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,000 So to continue his investigation, he heads to the Center for UFO Studies. 309 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:11,000 I have a number of documents here to go through and review, including the Blue Book files. 310 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Hopefully, some of this is going to shed some light on Kecksburg. 311 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:26,000 The Center for UFO Studies, or Cufos, is a collective of ufologists who share their findings on the world's UFO sightings. 312 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:35,000 Their facility contains all of Jenny Ziedman's and J. Allen Hineck's Blue Book files, as well as countless other exhaustively documented encounters. 313 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,000 If there is any proof of a government-backed cover-up at Kecksburg, it's within these walls. 314 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,000 The official story on this case is quite different than what the witnesses claim. 315 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,000 The witnesses swear that it wasn't a meteor that landed. 316 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:02,000 They know for certain after 55 years, they saw things being removed by the Air Force. 317 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000 But where? Where does it go? 318 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Finally, he uncovers a significant lead. A response from NASA to a 2003 Freedom of Information request for all federal documents related to the Kecksburg UFO incident. 319 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,000 What's going on, Ben? 320 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:38,000 This is like a deep rabbit hole because there's been multiple requests made over the years. 321 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:45,000 But if I'm following this correctly, this is pretty big news. 322 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:54,000 Okay, so Leslie Keen, she is a well-known UFO researcher and she kind of spearheaded this. 323 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,000 It looks like in 2003 she made her main foyer request. 324 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:08,000 The Freedom of Information Act requires the release of previously confidential files when requested by members of the public. 325 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,000 She specifically asked for two boxes that belong to the Fragology files. 326 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Now, Fragology is like the study of fragments, space fragments, right? 327 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Supposedly NASA had collected some metal materials related to Kecksburg, yet they said, 328 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Our records indicate that the boxes were identified as missing in 1987 and have not been located since that day. 329 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Things just kind of disappeared. 330 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:48,000 According to the report, NASA claimed to have lost or destroyed all evidence related to the Kecksburg case, 331 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,000 including a box that contained metal fragments recovered from the crash site. 332 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Two boxes of material that NASA supposedly had of the debris are missing since 1987 and they have no idea where they are. 333 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:15,000 What were these metal fragments found at the site and why was the box supposedly lost or destroyed? 334 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:26,000 This MO unfortunately has played out so many times when there's something so big it seems like the government just does not want to talk about. 335 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,000 And it makes you wonder if we can trust anything when it comes to the official narrative. 336 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:40,000 The files also reveal the name of an eyewitness who lived across the street from the crash site in 1965, 337 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,000 then has located him and set up a meeting. 338 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Hi, you must be John. 339 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Yep. 340 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,000 Ben. 341 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Pleasure to meet you. 342 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,000 So you kind of had a front row seat to the whole event. 343 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Yeah, sure did. 344 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000 So how old were you at the time? 345 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000 I was 10 years old. 346 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Can you tell me what happened with you that night? Where were you and how did it all start for you? 347 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:24,000 Well, we was actually outside the yard playing football and we walked in the house and mom and dad was talking about something crashing. 348 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:44,000 Mom walked over to the window. She was looking out the road across the hill. 349 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,000 And then got knocked on the door. 350 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:09,000 And then there were some guys that came in and they looked like black suits. 351 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:20,000 And they wanted the kids to go to bed so we wouldn't hear what was going on. 352 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000 They used our house phone. 353 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,000 And then what's not my bedroom went up. 354 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:48,000 What he saw in the hours that followed are forever etched in his mind. 355 00:33:48,000 --> 00:34:02,000 He went down in empty. They come out with something on the back of it. 356 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,000 And then there was a guy that was coming through. 357 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:14,000 He was carrying this box and it was in like white moon suits like home. 358 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Could this be the box that contained the metal fragments that were supposedly lost or destroyed by the government? 359 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,000 I've never seen those guys after that. 360 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,000 They knew what they was coming in to do and they got it done and got out of there. 361 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:48,000 I can see people walking down across the field. 362 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:56,000 But every day they took out of there they didn't want people to know about it. 363 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,000 So did you ask your dad you said he didn't really talk about this at all? 364 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,000 My dad would not talk about it. In fact a lot of people around there none of them would talk about it. 365 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Still John's family was curious enough to dig a little deeper. 366 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,000 We went and got records for our house phone. 367 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000 We did. 368 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,000 We just want to see who they was calling. 369 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:33,000 We thought maybe he would tell us where this thing went and who was dealing with things or what it could have been. 370 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000 And none of these calls ever shared up on the phone. 371 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000 Are you serious? 372 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Yes. The only calls that was on there is the ones that we made. 373 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,000 Could that box have contained metal fragments from the UFO or something even more extraordinary? 374 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,000 The remains of its extraterrestrial pilot. 375 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:02,000 According to researcher Stan Gordon, eyewitnesses alluded to the possibility of an alien inside the box. 376 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:08,000 And I can see his voice begin to tremble when he said I swear to God sir there was something inside of that thing. 377 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:19,000 If the military did indeed carry away UFO and its extraterrestrial pilot, this could very well be one of the greatest cover-ups in history. 378 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:26,000 I have one more expert to interview who may have insider information. 379 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Tom Carey is a veteran of the Air Force where he held a high level of top secret clearance. 380 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:41,000 After retiring from the military, he worked with Jenny Zeidman, directly under Jay Allen Heineck, who investigated UFO sightings all across America. 381 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,000 When it comes to UFOs, Tom is one of the world's leading experts. 382 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000 So Tom, it's good to see you again. 383 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:58,000 I've been researching the Kecksburg case and after talking to all these witnesses and being out there at the site, I have a lot of questions. 384 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000 I hope you can kind of fill in the blanks for me. 385 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000 I'll try. 386 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:09,000 With Kecksburg, why would the military after all these years try to keep something like this under wraps? 387 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,000 And how are they able to react so quickly to retrieve the UFO? 388 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,000 The die was cast back in 1947 because of Roswell. 389 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:30,000 In that famous case, a craft was uncovered outside a ranch in Roswell, New Mexico and immediately covered up by the military. 390 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:39,000 It came into possession of a downed, nuts and bolts craft from somewhere else. 391 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,000 And they chose to keep it secret. 392 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Unfortunately, such secrets get away to their own. 393 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Air Force will say that Roswell was a balloon and that the bodies were these thymestormaticans that people saw from these high parachute drops. 394 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:08,000 However, in Kecksburg, it seems like they had a very organized response. 395 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:15,000 The military shows up and then within hours, the thing is loaded up to the trailer and taken off. 396 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000 Yes, this is almost 20 years after Roswell. 397 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:24,000 So they had this procedure very well honed by the time of the Kecksburg. 398 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000 And what is it? Practice makes perfect. 399 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Both UFO crashes wreak of a government cover up, but they share something else in common. 400 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Now, I know this is just a general impression based on witnesses who got a brief look at this thing up close. 401 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:51,000 Does that ring a bell to you any other craft that had sort of this hieroglyphics? 402 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:58,000 The only craft I can think of that had symbology was the Roswell depictions. 403 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Do you have any drawings of what the Roswell inscriptions look like? 404 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Yes. 405 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,000 Look at this one here. 406 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000 Here especially, yes. 407 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000 So what would that mean? 408 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,000 You have two different events originating from the same culture. 409 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,000 The next question would be, okay, where is that? 410 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000 In this case, it would be off the planet. 411 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Ben has one final question. What was in that box? 412 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Then they go into the woods with a small crate to take out something from the UFO. 413 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:45,000 If the box was smaller than the craft, that would be perhaps biological remains. 414 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000 Perhaps the pilot. 415 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,000 Here's my take on this whole thing, Tom, and you provide me a lot of great information. 416 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000 When it comes to Kecksburg, the same with Roswell. 417 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:05,000 If our government is coming clean on anything, supposedly, and they say, okay, this, we lied to you. 418 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:10,000 It wasn't a meteor. We did recover something. We're not interested in a meteor. 419 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:17,000 We put some type of a craft on that flatbed trailer. We took it up to Wright Pat. 420 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Now, Cold War is over. We've come forward with a lot of the secrets from back then. 421 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,000 The space race is over. So anything that NASA was working on. 422 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Why not now finally come forward if it was one of ours or the Russians and say, look, here's an interesting piece to put in the museum. 423 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Here's the Kecksburg Acorn. This is what you guys saw. 424 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:56,000 We get that question all the time. And the answer is once you have a cover-up going, it's hard to stop it. 425 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:08,000 Because whoever stops it will pay a price. Somebody, especially politically, is going to pay a price and no one is willing to do that. 426 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:15,000 I believe that back in 1947, perhaps we weren't ready for people from another planet. 427 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,000 Oh, that's too much for me to handle. But right now, you know, with all of the cases that have been reported, 428 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:30,000 most people accept that there's other life in the universe. Statistically speaking, it's a no-brainer. 429 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,000 There is absolutely other life in the universe. 430 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000 Do you think we could be ready? 431 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:43,000 Oh, we are ready, but it's a question, are the secret keepers ready? And I don't think they are, if ever. 432 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:52,000 Because they will have to admit, someone will have to admit that your government's been lying to you for 70-plus years. 433 00:41:52,000 --> 00:42:05,000 And so what you're saying is, if this was just a recovered Russian satellite at Kecksburg, they would have probably come clean by now, but it's not that. 434 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:15,000 It's something else from another world, and it's part of the big, more...right? 435 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:25,000 But I feel like there's something more here with Kecksburg. There's something like we don't want to give the information, because it's part of the bigger story that we're not all... 436 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:37,000 It's part of the ultimate secret. It's a part of the ultimate secret. And coming clean would just...it would not end the questions. 437 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,000 We only start questions, other questions. What else are you lying to us about? 438 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:50,000 That's why they...I will tell you, Ben, they will never come clean on UFOs, ever. 439 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:57,000 Right after meeting with Tom Carey, I received a package at my hotel from Stan Gordon. 440 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,000 He said he uncovered something explosive I need to hear. 441 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,000 What's in the envelope? 442 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:18,000 So, when I was busy trying to find out where this Kecksburg UFO was taken, Stan Gordon was also busy at work, and he turned up a reported statement from a truck driver who says he knows where the craft was taken. 443 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000 So, let's give this a listen. 444 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:28,000 The man on this tape delivered a shipment of bricks to Wright Patterson Air Force Base and saw something he wasn't meant to see. 445 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:38,000 They took it from the backside of the Wright Patterson Air Base all the way through the main part of the base, out the other side. 446 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:48,000 The spaceship was like a large egg coin, about 14 feet to the top and about 10 to 12 feet wide. 447 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,000 It had writing on the collar. 448 00:43:51,000 --> 00:44:00,000 The anonymous truck driver watched numerous agents load the craft into a large hangar, but that wasn't the only thing he saw. 449 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:11,000 I also seen an object laying on the workbench over there, and it had dark green or brownish skin. 450 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:30,000 Wow! We have a witness who places that UFO from Kecksburg coming through the back gate at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. 451 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,000 This witness's statement is very key to the whole Kecksburg story. 452 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,000 The description of the object is very similar to what the witnesses said. 453 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,000 It's acorn shaped, it has strings riding around the bottom part of it. 454 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:53,000 The Air Force picked up this craft, they take it to Wright Patterson, and then he said he sees the body. 455 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:59,000 People described seeing a large box that was brought into the woods. 456 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,000 And they carried that thing down in to that object. 457 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,000 It's believed that possibly a body was recovered. 458 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:14,000 Whenever they took out of there, they didn't want people to know about it. 459 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:20,000 But what happened after that remains to be seen. 460 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:29,000 The truck drivers recorded a count confirmed that the Air Force recovered both a UFO and an alien body and took them to Wright Patterson. 461 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:38,000 But now the question is, why? 462 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,000 I have no doubt that what happened at Kecksburg is still a matter of national security. 463 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:54,000 After all these decades, if it was just a meteor, if it was just a downed satellite, we would have come out and talked about it now, but we haven't. 464 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:59,000 So now the next part of my mission is to investigate Wright Patterson. 465 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,000 If the truth is out there, I'm going to find it.